Archive for ◊ January, 2009 ◊

Author: John Travis
• Wednesday, January 28th, 2009

Economists and others weigh in on the Fed’s statement accompanying its interest-rate decision.

  • Policymakers are becoming even more worried about deflation, or as they delicately put it, “…risk that inflation could persist for a time below rates that best foster economic growth.” They stand ready to do whatever is necessary to prevent that, but there is no promise to buy Treasurys yet, though they will if conditions suggest such a move would benefit “private credit markets.” –Ian Shepherdson, High Frequency Economics
  • It is clear that the FOMC believed that economic conditions worsened since their last meeting in the US and globally and that now downward pressure on inflation could persist for a time below rates that best foster economic growth. It is a reference to the risk of deflation to go along with their declared downside risk to growth. –Brian Fabbri, BNP Paribas
  • The policy statement was largely unsurprising in that it highlighted the economy’s deterioration since the mid-December FOMC meeting, a consequent further reduction in inflation pressures (including a “risk” of inflation slipping by too much — which we read as a clear nod to the possibility of deflation), and a continued intention to use all tools already revealed in the policy arsenal with the exception (so far at least) of Treasury purchases… As for purchases of Treasuries, the statement indicated that the Fed was prepared to do so “if evolving circumstances indicate that such transactions would be particularly effective in improving conditions in private credit markets.” In other words, if buying Treasuries were seen as being an effective mechanism to reduce the level of non-Treasury interest rates, then it would be something that could well be implemented. –Joshua Shapiro, MFR Inc.
  • The news coming from these reports the Fed doesn’t mention the word deflation in the statement, but did highlight the prospect for inflation to persist below rates that best foster economic growth and price stability in the long-term. That’s central bank code for a period of deflation! … I believe there are some members of the FOMC that want to move slowly on the plan to buy long-term Treasuries, since in doing so the Fed is basically “monetizing” the debt, trading government IOUs for Federal Reserve IOUs, that could ultimately be destabilizing for the dollar and U.S. inflation down the road. –Scott A. Anderson, Wells Fargo
  • Richmond’s Lacker cast the only dissenting vote preferring to move away from the targeted support operations that the Fed is currently conducting and simply buy more Treasuries in order to expand high powered money. Clearly, the vast majority of Fed policymakers prefer the more targeted approach. –David Greenlaw, Morgan Stanley
  • Perhaps Lacker’s dissent (who is a relative hawk on the FOMC) favoring immediate purchases hints that no such purchases are imminent… Fed policies cannot be designed independently of other financial rescue plans (such as a ‘bad bank’ and the stimulus package working its way through Congress). –RDQ Economics
  • We hear in the policy conduct discussion some resistance to further growth in the balance sheet (which has declined in recent weeks). Our immediate impression (and we reserve the right to reflect) is that the Committee is already contemplating an exit from the credit easing episode, and that the next $1 trillion of balance sheet expansion will come more grudgingly than did the last $1 trillion. –Alan Levenson, T. Rowe Price
  • The Fed is scrambling and willing to try anything and everything in an attempt to halt the downward spiral in the economy and the adverse feedback effects onto the financial markets. –Stephen A. Wood, Insight Economics
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    Author: John Travis
    • Wednesday, January 28th, 2009

    The Federal Open Market Committee decided today to keep its target range for the federal funds rate at 0 to 1/4 percent. The Committee continues to anticipate that economic conditions are likely to warrant exceptionally low levels of the federal funds rate for some time.

    Information received since the Committee met in December suggests that the economy has weakened further. Industrial production, housing starts, and employment have continued to decline steeply, as consumers and businesses have cut back spending. Furthermore, global demand appears to be slowing significantly. Conditions in some financial markets have improved, in part reflecting government efforts to provide liquidity and strengthen financial institutions; nevertheless, credit conditions for households and firms remain extremely tight. The Committee anticipates that a gradual recovery in economic activity will begin later this year, but the downside risks to that outlook are significant.

    In light of the declines in the prices of energy and other commodities in recent months and the prospects for considerable economic slack, the Committee expects that inflation pressures will remain subdued in coming quarters. Moreover, the Committee sees some risk that inflation could persist for a time below rates that best foster economic growth and price stability in the longer term.

    The Federal Reserve will employ all available tools to promote the resumption of sustainable economic growth and to preserve price stability. The focus of the Committee’s policy is to support the functioning of financial markets and stimulate the economy through open market operations and other measures that are likely to keep the size of the Federal Reserve’s balance sheet at a high level. The Federal Reserve continues to purchase large quantities of agency debt and mortgage-backed securities to provide support to the mortgage and housing markets, and it stands ready to expand the quantity of such purchases and the duration of the purchase program as conditions warrant. The Committee also is prepared to purchase longer-term Treasury securities if evolving circumstances indicate that such transactions would be particularly effective in improving conditions in private credit markets. The Federal Reserve will be implementing the Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility to facilitate the extension of credit to households and small businesses. The Committee will continue to monitor carefully the size and composition of the Federal Reserve’s balance sheet in light of evolving financial market developments and to assess whether expansions of or modifications to lending facilities would serve to further support credit markets and economic activity and help to preserve price stability.

    Voting for the FOMC monetary policy action were: Ben S. Bernanke, Chairman; William C. Dudley, Vice Chairman; Elizabeth A. Duke; Charles L. Evans; Donald L. Kohn; Dennis P. Lockhart; Kevin M. Warsh; and Janet L. Yellen. Voting against was Jeffrey M. Lacker, who preferred to expand the monetary base at this time by purchasing U.S. Treasury securities rather than through targeted credit programs.

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    Author: admin
    • Wednesday, January 28th, 2009

    Dawn Wotapka reports:

    Just in time for the spring selling season, home builders are unveiling mega-deals to attract buyers who may be waiting to see how low the market goes or more enticed by bargain-priced foreclosures. (Builders Offer Delayed Payments, Low Rates, Layoff Insurance)

    dev_toll_E_20090128141727.jpgHawthorn Woods Country Club in Hawthorn Woods, Ill. (Toll Brothers)

    Last week, luxury builder Toll Brothers detailed a 3.99% fixed mortgage rate for 30 years on loans of $417,000 or less. The deal, with no points to the buyer, requires a credit score of 720 or above and a 20% down payment. Pulte Homes offers the same rate to qualified buyers in six markets: Minnesota, Denver, Chicago, Indianapolis, Michigan and Cleveland. Hovnanian Enterprises’s mortgage arm says it is poised to match it, possibly requiring as little as 5% down from those with strong credit scores.

    Not to be outdone, Lennar Corp. recently rolled out a 3.875% fixed rate in a number of its 40-plus markets. That rate is one of — if not the — sector’s lowest numbers.

    This latest of crop of deals extends beyond rock-bottom rates. For homes closing on or after May 1, Pulte will cover payments until 2010. The special is available in the same six markets, but can’t be combined with the 3.99% offer. And, as soon as this weekend, Hovnanian expects to have insurance to cover payments for some laid-off homeowners for up to six months. It costs buyers nothing.

    “We hope this will give a little peace of mind” to jittery consumers, said Dan Klinger, president of K. Hovnanian American Mortgage.

    Such creativity isn’t new, of course. Builders have long offered specials, even during better times. But, as prices take record tumbles and the financial crisis continues, these desperate companies are trying anything to strike a deal. They’ve shaved prices into the six figures, offered free gourmet kitchens, paid closing costs and even helped aspiring buyers spiffy up blemished credit reports to qualify for a loan or better rate. They’ve had little success, something unlikely to change now.

    “I give them credit; they’re not just rolling over and playing dead,” said Robert Curran, Fitch Ratings’ lead home-building analyst. “They’re looking to distinguish themselves among their peers in a very, very tough market. It probably pulls [in] some incremental sales, but I think in the environment we’re in right now, it’s probably not going to make a big difference.”

    Readers, what, if anything, will draw you to the closing table?

    Author: John Travis
    • Tuesday, January 27th, 2009

    A roundup of economic news from around the Web.

  • Stimulus Analysis: The Congressional Budget Office has released its analysis of the fiscal stimulus package. “Frequently in the past, in all types of federal programs, a noticeable lag has occurred between sharp increases in funding and resulting increases in outlays. Based on such experiences, CBO expects that federal agencies, states, and other recipients of funding would find it difficult to properly manage and oversee a rapid expansion of existing programs so as to spend added funds quickly as they expend their normal resources. The seasonal nature of some spending also affects the speed at which activities can be conducted; for example, major school repairs are generally scheduled during the summer to avoid disrupting classes.”
  • Stand Up to Bankers: Writing for the Financial Times, Peter Boone and Simon Johnson say that in order to save banking through recapitalization, the U.S. has to stand up to bankers. The most politically robust solution is for the government to acquire not voting stock but warrants – the option to buy such stock. These warrants would convert to common stock when sold, and a Resolution Trust Corporation-type structure could manage the disposal of these controlling stakes into the hands of private equity investors. New owners would restructure bank operations, fire executives and break up the banks (particularly if some anti-trust provisions were added). The sticking point will be banks refusing to sell assets at market value. The regulators need to apply without forbearance their existing rules and principles for the marking to market of all illiquid assets. The law must be used against accountants and bank executives who deviate from the rules on capital requirements. This will concentrate the minds of our financial elite. Either they will raise capital privately or the government will provide, but this time on terms favorable to the taxpayer. The bankers’ lobby, of course, will protest loudly. Good thing we now have a US president who can stand up to it.”
  • Euro Trouble: Martin Feldstein, writing for voxeu, ponders the fate of the euro. “In these circumstances, it is possible that one or more countries might actually withdraw from the Eurozone. It is clear why some national political leaders – or would be leaders – might consider such an option. Doing so would allow their reinstated national central bank to choose an easier monetary policy. The national central bank could also create the currency needed to act as a lender of last resort to national commercial banks. The country’s fiscal authority would no longer be bound by the restrictions of the Stability and Growth Pact and could therefore pursue a large fiscal stimulus. The international value of the currency could adjust to make local products more competitive. A country might threaten to leave the Eurozone unless policy became more expansive. If policy did not change, it might face the difficult choice between leaving the Eurozone and losing face by backing down from its threatened action.”
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    Author: admin
    • Tuesday, January 27th, 2009

    Dawn Wotapka reports:
    It’s a big week for home price data. Yesterday, the National Association of Realtors reported an unexpected rise in existing-home sales. Today the S&P/Case-Shiller home price index reported record rates of annual decline in 11 of 20 metro areas. Another survey released Monday also shows dramatic price erosion nationwide, this one from First American CoreLogic and its LoanPerformance Home Price Index, which tracks resales of single-family homes.
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    Since peaking in July of 2006, home prices have tumbled 18.5% to levels last seen in the spring of 2004. In November alone, CoreLogic reports a 10.2% year-over-year decline — with early numbers showing continued pain in December — the 10th straight month with declines above 10%.

    Prices fell in 35 states, with California’s 26.9% decline leading the pack. Next came Nevada’s fall of nearly 23%, with almost 20% each in Arizona and Florida. Even so, November registered some annual single-digit appreciation, fueled by ho-hum markets that didn’t become bubbles during the boom. Upstate New York’s Binghamton and Plattsburgh dominated that list, followed by Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and Rocky Mount, N.C. Each saw gains above 6%.
    Areas with the Highest Home Price Depreciation

    Area 12 Month HPI Change %
    Salinas Calif. -30.04%
    Vallejo-Fairfield Calif. -29.35%
    Merced Calif. -29.25%
    Modesto, Calif. -29.25%
    Stockton, Calif -29.21%
    Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, Calif. -29.19%
    Bakersfield, Calif. -28.85%
    El Centro, Calif. -28.12%
    Napa, Calif. -28.02%
    Miami-Miami Beach-Kendall Fla. -27.84%

    Source: First American CoreLogic, LoanPerformance HPI, Single-Family Detached as of November 2008

    Author: John Travis
    • Monday, January 26th, 2009

    Economists and others weigh in on the increase in existing-home sales amid the drop in prices for December.

  • In these times, it’s nice to see a positive surprise in the housing numbers, but the December pop in existing home sales has us rubbing our eyes to make sure that’s actually a “plus” and not a “minus” in front of the 6.5%… The jump in existing home sales for December was entirely single family-driven, and was accompanied by a welcome collapse in the amount of inventory on the market. The decline in months supply from 10.7 to 8.6 months was not only the result of higher sales, but also of absolute falling inventories. Total home inventories slid 13.2% month-over-month, a huge drop. This decline in inventories, the latest component of a trend that started in July, is encouraging for our expectations of stable housing market in the second half of 2009. Excess supply is the one overhang preventing potential vulture investors from stepping more aggressively into the sector, and with today’s indication that this overhang is easing, we’ll likely see more interest on the demand side as well. Don’t jump out of your chair and call your real estate agent quite yet — we’re talking about the start of a trend that will likely play out over the next six months, not an instant fix. –Guy LeBas, Janney Montgomery Scott
  • Despite the bounce in sales in December, the housing market remains in critical condition. Lower prices and lower interest rates will help sales to some extent, but the dismal condition of the labor market will remain a considerable drag on home sales over the remainder of 2009. Also, it will take several more months of data on the inventory front before December’s decline in inventories can be put in proper perspective. One factor that likely helped magnify the decline in inventories in December was that many lenders and local governments had imposed moratoriums on foreclosures over the final months of 2008. As these start to expire, and as deteriorating economic and labor market conditions push more homes into the foreclosure process, inventories are likely to rise. Along with what we believe will be declining sales over coming months, this will likely lead to a reversal of the seeming progress made on the inventory front in December. Should that prove to be the case, home prices will remain under downward pressure. Lower prices will help improve affordability, as will lower mortgage interest rates, but tougher mortgage lending standards and continued job losses will exert more of an influence on home sales over coming months. –Richard F. Moody, Mission Residential
  • Sales undershot the level implied by the pending home sales index in the three months to November, but this December gain has closed the gap. Still, it does not fully reverse the November drop and the clear message from the data is that sales have softened markedly since the summer, following a few months of modest gains. According to the NAR all the rise in spring and summer sales was due to vultures buying cheap foreclosed properties, and even that business now seems to have been battered by the credit crunch. Prices are still falling, but at least inventory fell in December. It remains extremely high, though. Still, rising mortgage apps might mean better first quarter. –Ian Shepherdson, High Frequency Economics
  • We suspect that the big sales drop in November exaggerated underlying trends and the December bounce puts sales back slightly above the average of the two previous months. As has been the case in recent months, a substantial portion of the sales in December were of properties in foreclosure. Reflecting the urgency of sellers to clear out these properties, both the median and average sales price fell sharply… While average prices fell most sharply in the West (-10.9%) and the Northeast (-7.6%) they were slightly higher in the Midwest and South. Encouragingly, the increased sales resulting from more realistic pricing has cut the nationwide inventory of unsold existing homes to a two-year low. –David Resler, Nomura Securities
  • Existing home sales peaked during the summer of 2005 and have fallen fairly steadily since then. This month’s jump in sales, while welcome, is unlikely to represent the beginning of an improving trend given that the inventory of homes available for sale is still very high, home prices are continuing to fall, and mortgage lending standards have tightened substantially. The inventory of unsold homes–while declining–is still very high, putting downward pressure on both new construction and home prices. Home prices have been falling on a year-on-year basis for more than 2 years and, in recent months, the price declines have accelerated. As long as inventories stay very high and a high proportion of sales are distressed, prices will continue to decline. A sustained recovery in the housing market is unlikely until home prices stabilize. –Stephen A. Wood, Insight Economics
  • The most substantial problem with the resales data is the increasing prevalence of bank-owned properties (ordinarily auctioned) are being sold through traditional realtor channels. This will tend to boost both inventories and sales, leaving the impression of higher activity levels, an increasing upward bias in the series. (The fact that the properties are finding buyers is not one of the many negatives) This is not the case with new construction, which shows a decimated sales pace through November 2008 –Steven Wieting, Citigroup
  • While distressed sales continue to account for a huge chunk of overall activity, part of the market clearing process is that distressed properties must be sold, so the fact that this is occurring is good. Still, it certainly depresses prices (see below), and there are plenty more foreclosed (or soon to be foreclosed) homes in the pipeline. The inescapable conclusion, therefore, is that median sales prices will continue to decline for the foreseeable future. –Joshua Shapiro, MFR Inc.
  • A sharp drop in home prices appears to have brought some buyers into the market, particularly in the West (and the National Association of Realtors noted that distressed properties accounted for 45% of all sales). With mortgage rates falling toward the end of 2008 and prices likely continuing to adjust lower, it will be interesting to see if existing home sales can stabilize around these levels. Recent pending home sales data, however, have remained weak. –RDQ Economics
  • Compiled by Phil Izzo

    Author: admin
    • Monday, January 26th, 2009

    Sushil Cheema reports:

    The National Association of Realtors today reported that home resales were up 6.5% in December from a month earlier, in part due to buyers scooping up distressed sales in many markets. Nationwide the median home price fell to $175,000 in December 2008 — a 15.3% drop from December 2007. (See “Home Resales Rise as Prices Tumble.) Here’s a look at what $175,000 gets you in a few different areas in the U.S., courtesy of Zillow.com.

    304 Santa Rosa Avenue in Santa Rosa, Calif

    This house at 304 Santa Rosa Avenue in Santa Rosa, Calif., sold for $175,000 on January 1. The 889-square-foot house has three bedrooms and two bathrooms. The median sales price in the West fell to $213,100 in December 2008, a 31.5% drop from December 2007.

    8135 Cameron Cay Ct. in New Port Richey, Fla.

    This 1,624-square-foot house at 8135 Cameron Cay Ct. in New Port Richey, Fla., sold for $176,000 on December 20. Located on a 19,437-square-foot lot, it has three bedrooms and two bathrooms. In the South, the median price was $158,000 in December 2008.

    7521 Saint George Circle in Portage, Mich.

    This 1,758-square-foot house at 7521 Saint George Circle in Portage, Mich., sold for $175,450 on December 5. It has three bedrooms, two-and-a-half bathrooms. The median price in the Midwest was $140,800 in December 2008, an 11.4% drop from December 2007.

    226 High Street in Peekskill, NY

    This property at 226 High Street in Peekskill, N.Y., sold for $175,000 on December 2. The 1,000-square-foot house has two bedrooms and one bathroom. In December 2008, the median price in the northeast fell 7.8% to $235,000 from December 2007.

    Author: John Travis
    • Friday, January 23rd, 2009

    A roundup of economic news from around the Web.

  • Stimulus Skepticism: On his Marginal Revolution blog, Tyler Cowen says we just don’t know how effective stimulus will be. “I fully admit that I don’t trust the oft-cited evidence that tax cuts are 4x better stimulus than government spending boosts; I think the result is a mirage from underspecified models. Overall we simply don’t know how well the proposed stimulus will work — if at all (is aggregate demand always the relevant war?). It’s a kind of Hail Mary pass, an enduring belief in aggregate demand macroeconomics at the theoretical level, even in light of broken banks, sectoral shifts, and nasty, failing expectations, all mixed in with hard to spend well, slow to come on line, monies. Yes it could work but our agnosticism should be strong rather than just perfunctory. “
  • Krugman Criticism: Writing for the New York Times, Paul Krugman has some criticism of Barack Obama’s inauguration speech. “But my real problem with the speech, on matters economic, was its conventionality. In response to an unprecedented economic crisis — or, more accurately, a crisis whose only real precedent is the Great Depression — Mr. Obama did what people in Washington do when they want to sound serious: he spoke, more or less in the abstract, of the need to make hard choices and stand up to special interests. That’s not enough. In fact, it’s not even right.”
  • Soros on Banks: Writing for the Financial Times, George Soros gives his views on the best way to fix the banks. “The hard choice facing the Obama administration is between partially nationalising the banks, or leaving them in private hands but nationalising their toxic assets. Choosing the first course would inflict great pain on a broad segment of the population – not only on bank shareholders but also on the beneficiaries of pension funds. However, it would clear the air and restart the economy. The latter course would avoid recognising and coming to terms with the painful economic realities, but it would put the banking system into the same quandary that proved the undoing of the government sponsored enterprises (GSEs) – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The public interest would dictate that the banks should resume lending on attractive terms. However, this lending would have to be enforced by government diktat because the self-interest of the banks would lead them to focus on preserving and rebuilding their own equity. Political realities are pushing the Obama administration towards the latter course.”
  • Compiled by Phil Izzo

    Author: John Travis
    • Thursday, January 22nd, 2009

    President Barack Obama has asked his top advisers to brief him every morning on the condition of the economy, the White House said Thursday.

    Obama will get daily briefings on the economy. (Landov)

    White House spokesman Robert Gibbs, speaking to reporters at his first official briefing since Obama took office, said the president’s economic team, led by National Economic Council Director Larry Summers, will walk him through the day’s economic news each morning. The president receives a similar daily intelligence briefing.

    The first economic briefing occurred earlier Thursday and was attended by the president, Summers, Vice President Joe Biden, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, Budget Director Peter Orszag, Domestic Policy Director Melody Barnes and Biden’s economic adviser Jared Bernstein.

    It’s unclear if Obama’s Treasury Secretary will attend the sessions, once confirmed. The president’s nominee for the position, Tim Geithner, was approved by the Senate Finance Committee Thursday, clearing the way for full Senate confirmation.

    Gibbs said Obama was “very pleased” with the Finance Committee’s vote.

    The spokesman, addressed a jam-packed briefing room, offered few new details of the administration’s plans to revive the economy, saying that the White House is working as quickly as possible.

    He declined to address the possibility of the administration creating a new bank to buy up toxic assets, leaving such announcements to the administration’s economic braintrust.

    “I don’t want to get ahead of the economic team as to the best way forward to ensure economic stability,” Gibbs said. –Henry J. Pulizzi

    Author: John Travis
    • Thursday, January 22nd, 2009

    The Senate Finance Committee approved the nomination of Timothy Geithner for Treasury secretary today, but not before mulling over 102 pages of written answers to questions.

    At the end of Wednesday’s Senate Finance Committee hearing, Sen. Max Baucus announced that committee members would have until 5 p.m. (about three hours) to submit questions in writing for the Federal Reserve Bank of New York president. Mr. Geithner would have until 10 a.m. today to provide responses.

    Geithner responds to senators’ questions yesterday. (Getty Images)

    The senators submitted 163 questions, with multiple parts for many of them. And the answers were in before 10 a.m. They’re posted online – 102 pages worth on the economy, tax evasion, Bear Stearns, the financial rescues and more. Many of the answers offer little detail but a pledge of “I look forward to working with you…” on the stated matter. Among the responses:

  • Mr. Geithner says “we have no current plans to request further resources” for financial rescues beyond the second $350 billion tranche of the Troubled Asset Relief Program.
  • Regarding the government’s efforts to induce bank lending: “I am disappointed to report that while our efforts to date, I believe, have had enormous impact and averted a truly disastrous alternative, we have not done enough to bolster new lending activity. This remains a core goal of mine and I believe some of our actions in the last six months can serve as important templates for how TARP can be used to stimulate lending.”
  • Mr. Geithner says the Obama administration would “evaluate” housing proposals including one to set 4.5% mortgage rates. The objective of that proposal is “to assure that affordable mortgages are available for qualified borrowers.” Later, he acknowledges that the “response to date has been inadequate” on housing-market stabilization and that the Hope for Homeowners program “has not achieved the foreclosure mitigation goals it was designed to achieve.”
  • While the Resolution Trust Corporation (during to Savings and Loan crisis) was created to dispose of assets of failed institutions, today “we are looking for ways to address the problem of troubled assets on bank balance sheets that do not require causing institutions to fail because bank failures are costly and disruptive.”
  • At the end of a 2006 IRS audit, “it did not occur to me” to file amended returns for 2001 and 2002, when he also failed to pay certain taxes. The IRS agent and Geithner’s accountant “informed me that I owed taxes back to 2003.” During the November 2008 vetting process, the 2001 and 2002 errors “were drawn to my attention.” Mr. Geithner says his lawyer advised him orally in November that even though he was not legally obligated to re-file for 2001 and 2002, he should file amended returns.
  • Asked about contacts with Robert Rubin or anyone else representing Citigroup ahead of its bailout, Mr. Geithner says he had “a number of discussions with senior Citigroup executives and board members” but did not “participate in the negotiations with this firm.” He later writes that “I removed myself from any direct role in discussions with the firm” on the evening of Friday, Nov. 21 (the day news organizations reported on his expected nomination).
  • President Obama “believes that China is manipulating its currency” and plans to seek changes to its practices, but “the question is how and when to broach the subject in order to do more good than harm.”
  • –Sudeep Reddy